View Full Version : Snow Lepoard OS 10.6 & Font Spacing

09-29-2009, 01:08 PM
Any designers out there seen this issue? Apparently Snow leopard displays fonts and font spacing different then the regular 10.5 Leopard??

A whole thread full of pain...


09-29-2009, 02:18 PM
Anyone testing Snow Leopard with major apps (InDesign and Quark)?

10-16-2009, 03:56 PM
Since Snow Leopard does not support PS fonts any longer this will cause issues. We have found that using the font folder in either InDesign CS3 or 4 works very well with these apps. Quark still does not have a workaround. I understand why Apple dropped support for PS fonts since Adobe stopped writing them years ago. But the fact still remains that we as well as our clients have invested years in building these font libraries and do not wish to re-purchase the entire library as OTF. No problem to do it for us but I'm sure most clients can't do this. As well as the hinting and kerning will still be different and cause new issues with files built in years past.

10-21-2009, 02:02 PM

where are you reading that 10.6 no longer supports PostScript type 1 fonts? I can use PS fonts and they seem to work okay, font spacing issue excluded. What are you seeing.? - tc

Since Snow Leopard does not support PS fonts any longer this will cause issues.

10-21-2009, 02:29 PM
Although I had read this somewhere too Tom, I couldn't find the source.
I had copied this text from somewhere...

From the Apple support forums: "The long and the short of it is that Adobe no longer sells or supports Postscript Type 1 fonts, many of which have APS (Apple Type Services) code that has been abandoned by Apple as they wrote Snow Leopard. OTF (Open Type Format) is the standard. Quark users (specifically) with older type libraries will need to upgrade or repurchase the Adobe library as Open Type.

"It took four calls to Apple before I got past a Level 1 technician and found out that Snow Leopard doesn't support Postscript Type 1 fonts.
"Apparently, the move to the move to 64-bit code in Snow Leopard is more than a tweak to the system speed of Intel Macs. It represents a dramatic shift the operating system and a break with the past. Leopard killed Classic. Snow Leopard kills Apple Talk and Postscript Type 1 fonts."
Google took me here... http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10207499

10-21-2009, 02:31 PM

You can just google for a ton of info regarding this subject or go through this Apple discussion board at http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2136944&start=0&tstart=0. Very interesting stuff. Basically Snow Leopard does not support Apple Type Services (ATS). So the font metrics (line spacing and metric for the character height and width) are returning different values in Snow Leopard than in Leopard.

10-21-2009, 03:24 PM
I found all those items, thank you... but saying that PS fonts are not supported isn't 100% true. I think we are both talking about backward compatibility with PS fonts. Is it really Apples fault that adobe dropped support for PS fonts? Could the ATS code just not supported 64 bit and adobe would not let Apple port it over? Just thinking out loud here...