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Old 08-31-2016, 02:47 PM
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Default JDF Templates and False Lap

Hello,

Just starting to really dive into layouts for a new press and using JDF Templates.

When running a saddle stitched book with a false lap, how would I build this?

http://screencast.com/t/fc7S5hv6YX0m

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Default Re: JDF Templates and False Lap

A preps preference for that exist. Not sure it's what your after though.

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Old 09-01-2016, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: JDF Templates and False Lap

To run a false lap some pages would have a different back/front lip than others. This is for a wide format press.

A global setting for lip would not be correct.
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Old 09-07-2016, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: JDF Templates and False Lap

I opened a case on this subject awhile back, the response center solution was build a template from two sections with different lips. then save as a custom fold pattern. I never did get this to work because that throws the pagination for wide web saddle all out of whack.

I posted the following thread on here also

Preps 6.3 Fold patterns and multi Lips

Good luck Johnny.....Let us know if you find a solution
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Old 09-08-2016, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: JDF Templates and False Lap

This is what I was afraid of. To fix did you just not use a jdf fold type?
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Correct I gave up on using folding patterns for wide web saddle. Instead I set up a set of generic templates for each sheet size then modifyed things like trim size gutters and lip. Its a shame that Kodak does not have a solution for wide web saddle, this kind of negates the whole generate press run consept for wide web printing.
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I know it's been a while but have you heard if this is fixed or anywhere close? We are looking at Prepress Integration from efi Planner and it relies heavily on jdf fold types that must match in planner and in preps.

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Default Re: JDF Templates and False Lap

What do you consider wide web saddle? We have web presses and run a lot of saddle stitch books with a lap. But we use templates. Are you saying you can't add a lap using folding patterns?
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:22 PM
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What do you consider wide web saddle? We have web presses and run a lot of saddle stitch books with a lap. But we use templates. Are you saying you can't add a lap using folding patterns?
We run up to 74" wide web, Double round, double wide with 2 deliveries.

Yes, I can do it for templates but not for Folding Patterns.

https://screencast.com/t/2PMm5KXPY6

When I add "Front Lip" or "Back Lip" it is added as a regular lap but we often run false lap. This does not allow me to use folding patterns for saddle stitched, I just use them for perfect bound.

https://screencast.com/t/V9chPAOtJ

We are trying to use Prepress Integration with efi and it imports impositions from the folding patterns we create and save in preps.
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:51 PM
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What I was saying is that on wide web saddle stich with two different lip sizes say a 48-page sig running as a 32pg and a 16pg. The 16 page has a smaller lip that would allow it to tuck into the 32pg. When using folding patterns, you can't have two different lip sizes. It looks like Kodak may have resolved this issue in Preps 8, but I have not tried it.
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